To the poster who said the VP9 trigger was better than the PPQ, I'd love to get my hands on the two models you compared. We have compiled the syntax tables into an application, and verified that Argon Design's test streams produce output identical to vpxenc. I sold my VP9 quite awhile ago well before those videos were released. It’s been exceptionally reliable under normal conditions. Overall * * * * The VP9 has been a solid performer since day one, and the sub-compactish version is no different. I have literally never heard anyone else, ever, say that. It’s lightweight and comes with plenty of features that make it stand out from the crowd. Glad I never got a VP9. The mud test seems to cause more malfunctions with the VP9 than with the USP9 (but only on one test). The price point. Yet it still seems most people don’t use VP9. The ac… The HK VP9 is a popular and affordable pistol that I once carried for a year. Still one failure in 500 rounds ain’t horrible. How Does VP9 and H.265 Work. The MK23 is essentially the father of the USP and it was used extensively by US SOCOM. I’m just looking for an update from everyone concerning VP9’s. But sometimes malfunctioned like all guns would if you put mud in the magazine well etc. Ok Ok I think we've all seen the MAC video, but what about real life? Of course, I zeroed and tested the VP9 for accuracy and reliability beforehand. That can happen occasionally. HK has finally produced a new generation polymer-framed striker-fired gun. There is plenty of positive information on the VP9 already out there on the internet for anyone who wants to find it, but there is a lack of criticism if you're also looking for a fair review. An engineer reported that similar barrels on HK P30 models in 9mm have fired in-excess of 90,000 rounds in endurance tests. You do not have to pay a lot of money to access its amazing features.When you have the package delivered, you always look forward to unboxing it. But, this innovative gun doesn’t come cheap by any means. Thanks for linking. Reliability * * * * 1/2 There’s perfect and not perfect. I've had mine for 6 months and have noticed the super weak spring. HK extensively tested the VP9 with mounted accessories, and the company certifies the gun for work with lights and lasers that weigh up to 5.6 ounces. I've only fired 200 through mine so far, but no failures. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. With range grade FMJ ammo it shot 1 MOA with BUIS. Shame. The team has performed one level of review internally, and now seeks external review. The VP9 is similar, though it is slightly beefier. He then re-tested the VP9 not the one he beat to shit then I can’t recall what happened but either way I don’t really like MAC maybe his early stuff was good but anymore most paid people are not being % truthful anymore. I applied a Talon Grip to my VP9 for a more secure grip and Dawson Precision sights for a better sight picture. It also carrie 15+1 of 9mm, and weighs 25.56 ounces unloaded. We wanted to see if the new VP9 Tactical's heavier recoil spring would improve the performance of the VP9 in our standardized torture tests. Cannon-grade steel and a nitride finish are sure to provide long service life. It’s durable, customizable, and reliable. • HK VP9, 30-round 9mm extended magazine These 30-round mags are for the H&K VP9: In development for years, HK’s VP9 is the “people’s pistol,” a perfected striker-fired design with dozens of customizable grip configurations and an integrated accessory rail … I bought 450 rounds of browning 124gr last week, so I'll see how the VP9 handles that. P.S. The specification is not final. I’ve been carrying the VP9 for about a year now. I bought one because i wanted something with a better trigger than a glock, better ergos, and what I thought was the high reliability the p30 had. It was obviously the budget counterpart to the P30. How many rounds through it? The HK VP9 sports a 4.09-inch barrel, with a total length of 7.34 inches. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Aside from that, multiple brands of 115 gr have worked fine since day 1. The pistol has an accessory rail for the addition of a light or laser. Well it's kinda hilarious how obsessed he was with the VP9. : If anyone does an experiment where they put a VP9 in water and it doesn't fire... this could be just normal or perhaps even the way you hold it, because I've had failure to push into battery even when there was no water involved. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I don't mean in a simulation of rocks dirt etc, thing was dragged through gravel, mushed in mud and possibly deer shit (gun smelled funny all three days). Then he started a test called the gauntlet which the USP did perfect l(btw) other than one hard hammer pull. While it has the lines of the P30 it is slightly larger: OAL is 7.34”, … Ruger makes guns for low price points. If you want something that looks a little more revolutionary and packs a serious punch, you might have just found it. What really brings it home, despite the features, the accuracy, the reliability, all of that; the real cherry on this Teutonic Sundae of Awesomeness? The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. My Streamlight TLR-4 G mounted to the rail easily and caused no problems with the gun’s reliability or accuracy. Ok Ok I think we've all seen the MAC video, but what about real life? I first did my typical warm up of 10 rounds each at 3, 5, 7, 10, and 15 yards so that I’d have a baseline to compare the experience. Dripping in a puddle caused failure to fire, mud and dirt caused many more failures, the trigger became unusable, rinsing the gun did nkghing to help, throwing at trees and steel targets broke the polymure(sp), the magazine ejector broke off seems like it failed in numerous ways. Accuracy * * * * Sub 3″ accuracy at 25 yards is ok for a full sized gun, but earns this “subcompact” an additional star. VP9 Tactical, Optics Ready, 9mm, three 17rd magazines and night sights: 999: 81000626: 642230262492: VP9 Tactical, Optics Ready, 9mm, three 10rd magazines and night sights: 999: VP40 Pistols, .40 cal - supplied with two additional backstraps and … Members. Does it matter if the content is 1080p vs 4k in terms of which codec you would choose to export with? I'm not sure what anybody was expecting. Which I can’t say for my Glocks. Especially if the gun is new (happens less the older the gun gets for some reason, may have something to do with oil). If you read the conclusions here you'll see (+video): http://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk-handgun-talk/229023-hk-vp9-40-usp-water-clay-mud-tests-update-page-6-retest.html. All the HK pistols worked with "water test". Reliability-wise ejection is consistent, extractor geometry seems to be on point, and I haven’t been pinged in the head with a single piece of hot brass in more than 500 rounds so far. I've squeezed about 2000 rounds thru mine with out any malfs and minimal maintenance. The trigger has a positive reset which is a feature I prefer. Over the last year, I've read and watched every article and review I could get my hands on, and speaking with many LEO's, and my own personal experience with the VP40, I expected the VP9 to be exquisite. Based on this thread I imagine there won't be any issues. Looking into maybe getting a VP9 again. But be aware: All the HK pistols had problems once you start putting mud in the magazine well or action. VP9 is accurate, but it’s not a target gun. The interesting thing about VP9 H.265 is that while the 4k video makes individual pixels smaller to increase picture quality, the H.265 and VP9 are making them bigger than normal pixels to reduce bit rate.. H.265 can process macroblocks of pixels, like 64×64, 16×16 or 4×4; they will be compressed as a single unit. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Please direct commentary to the cod… We went through well over 5,000 rounds without a single hiccup. The knee is rehabbing quite well thank you! So please remember that REAL tests require HUGE sample size. I was immediately impressed with the trigger. 3. I've had mine for 6 months and have noticed the super weak spring. Chambered in 9mm, The VP9 features a striker fired design measuring 7.34-inches in length and 5.41-inches in height with a 4.09-in barrel. The most requested reliability or torture test has been the HK VP9. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the HecklerKoch community, A subreddit for all things H&K and H&K clones. Recently, H&K itself has fallen into financial trouble making me wonder if these issues are a trend we will begin to see/exacerbate in currents and futures lines as they cut costs/corners to stay in business. Glock no longer publishes MSRP, but you can expect to snag a G19 for about $500. A variety of ammo types and brands cycle properly and fire consistently in the VP9. That point was dumb as hell. So this updated and refined VP9 SK is a small striker-fired gun with a single stage-like short, light take-up and soft trigger, with no overtravel, a crisp press, and short reset. The big difference between all those guns is the APX is 100-150 bucks cheaper at retail, but at the end they all do the exact same thing: carry 15-17 rounds, accept red dots, and are boringly reliable. The VP9 is heralded for outstanding accuracy and reliability. If you push the slide ever-so slightly out of battery you have a dead trigger. After watching several other reviews on YouTube , besides MAC, my faith in the VP9 is a bit shaken. I didn't trust the Glock until they developed a proven track record of durability and reliability. After watching several other reviews on YouTube , besides MAC, my faith in the VP9 is a bit shaken. Zero failures. Sure; a gun that hit the market at nearly $750 is for people who base decisions on price, while at the same time Glocks and Springfields can be had for much less. You could buy an APX, a Sig P320, a Glock 19/17/45, HK VP9, M&P 2.0, or a Walther PPQ, and they’re all going to be good to go. VP9 Reliability. I don't wanna test my gun and never see it come back. Few reasons. Join. For some people it’s going to be too big to use for concealed carry but if I can do it, you can do it, guys. I've squeezed about 2000 rounds thru mine with out any malfs and minimal maintenance. I hate when guns don't work with cheap ammo. Hey guys. The VP9 is a gun I really wanted to like, but haven't warmed up to. He completely demolished one pre gauntlet, he chucks it at wood piles and steel targets like a tomahawk then complained when the mag release broke. Drawing its inspiration from the previous models, HK managed to develop one of the most dependable handguns but still affordable. I always judged ( couldn't help it ) a guns beauty in it's reliability. Pretty much the Reddit equivalent of HKpro, Press J to jump to the feed. But watching this gun fail the way it did has made me think of selling it and getting a G19 or Walther. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The target audience was the consumer that makes their primary purchasing decision on price. The VP9’s trigger was rather a breath of fresh air. Discuss firearms, politics, 2nd amendment news. The MSRP on the VP9 is a paltry $719, which means the street price will probably come out to high $600s, probably $650-$699 in shops. Reliability 3/5* My personal experience with the VP9 has been malfunction free in a range environment with a clean pistol. Cookies help us deliver our Services. We are particularly interested in verification of the document's textual content. What if we haven’t all seen the MAC video? Gunsite’s 250 Pistol course was originally designed by Col. Jeff Cooper, and over the years it’s been altered to account for advancements in training and equipment. I recently bought a VP9 as my first handgun and just recently got a chance to shoot 250 rounds (258 to be exact) of various ammo types at a range. Mine runs well as long as I use 124 grain or higher rounds. However, it held up pretty poorly to Military Arms Channels Torture Test which is why it gets the score with an asterisk. For a striker fired pistol, the trigger on the VP9 is fantastic. It rocks a 15 round magazine and weight 25.56 ounces with an empty magazine. Most reviewers report no problems firing anywhere from 1,000 to … Size wise, the VP9 is falls somewhere between a Glock 17 and 19. The trigger is good, and i love the ambi controls. I have two. The gun is 5.41 inches tall, and 1.32 inches wide. Its price moves between 560$ and 760$, so it’s best to figur… They were on the market for 640 and 680 respectively. So are we saying the P30 is an upgrade in reliability? The controls are in the right place, and as configured from the factory, is a … I own a P30L and I was planning the move to striker fired so I went and rented a VP9 at the local range. 37. Isn’t VP9 more efficient, yielding better quality at a smaller size? Additionally, reading more about HK quality in the past has not left me super warm and fuzzy. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I know youtube re-encodes in VP9. 14.3k. 1 failure to go fully into battery when dry and filthy. VP9 Tactical, Optics Ready, 9mm, three 17rd magazines and night sights: 999: 81000626: 642230262492: VP9 Tactical, Optics Ready, 9mm, three 10rd magazines and night sights: 999: VP40 Pistols, .40 cal - supplied with two additional backstraps and … While it’s a little hard to test out that claim, the VP9 does show remarkable reliability at the range. I love MAC, I really do, but when we ran this handgun at TDI in 2014 - we really fucked up the gun. I figured now was the time to test the VP9 … The HK VP9 is a nice pistol well-made pistol capable of above-average accuracy that will fit a wide range of shooters and can be used at the range or for self-defense. I’m used to a Glock trigger that has some resistance and sponginess on the take up. The VP9 uses the same magazine as the hammer-fired … Take it or leave it. Appropriately to its calling as a defensive pistol, it produces almost the same accuracy in rapid fire as with slow, deliberate shooting. I was a golfing fanatic, played in a bunch of HANDICAPPED tournaments. Note carefully: 1. Yeah. The AR556 is the best deal I have had on a firearm in decades. Since you can find them for less than $600 in many stores, a lot of people will tell you that it's more gun for the money than Glock. It has a smooth and resistance-free take up, a clear wall, and a decent break. It has been an awesome shooter right out of the box. Interested parties are invited to review the current draft of the VP9Bitstream Specification. I'm kinda torn. Created Jan 16, 2013. Yeah i was surprised too when my glock 42 had FTF. I found it at Buds' for $449 shipped and spent $25 to land it at my favorite FFL. On opening the box, you will get the firearm and other important accessories. The trigger IMHO isn't all that great. In 2014, H&K introduced a striker fired pistol, the VP9. Pretty much the Reddit equivalent of HKpro. 4. If this is the case, why? I have to note that in other tests, the VP9's failures are very similar to those of a USP and the USP is used by 10 different countries including still being used by the US Federal Air Marshal Service Federal Flight Deck Officer's. If I use 115 grain 9mm, i have failure to eject and failure to feed issues. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Tipping scales at 25.56-ounces, the VP9 can pack 15 rounds of ammunition in its magazine, offering plenty of rounds for plinking or concealed carry use. The VP9 also sports a small accessory rail for those interested in throwing on a light/laser combo for low-light … For this handgun, it is the same thing. The H&K VP9 has a 4-inch barrel, with dimensions of 7.34 inches long by 5.41 inches tall by 1.32 inches wide. A typical rapid-fire group was comprised of one large, ragged hole … Ultimately, this is a really great gun. It's close to a Goldilocks gun in size, so a good number of people do conceal and carry the VP9 on the daily. In preparing to shoot the H&K VP9, I first took a few dry-fire shots. Known for durability, the VP9 utilizes a cold hammer-forged barrel with a polished feed ramp. While I'm a bit bothered by these VP9 failures, I'll wait a bit to see if it just doesn't like el cheapo ammo. So, in my experience of running this handgun exceptionally hard in an almost stupid amount of torture testing, we had no issues. The VP9 SK subcompact is directly derived from the successful and widely-accepted, striker-fired full-size H&K VP9, which was under development for more than four years. What about you guys. Posts must be somewhat related to firearms and must comply with the Global Reddit Rules. As a VP9 owner, ouch but not unfounded review. Mine was the same with 115 at first but after a couple hundred 124gr to break it in it runs anything, vp9 never fucked up on me tons of rds through it. help Reddit App Reddit coins Reddit premium Reddit gifts. The difference in quality is pretty apparent when they are held side by side. If you push the slide ever-so slightly out of battery you have a dead trigger. Myrtle beach, Las Vegas, NYS. We value freedom of speech as much as we do the right to keep and bear arms. I do love the looks and asthetics of the gun. Post H&K news, show off your guns, ask questions. Barrel-to-slide fit is good, the feed ramp is polished up, and rounds feed smoothly regardless of profile or weight. HK is finally delivering the pistol they feel commercial customers deserve. That was one of the more entertaining things I've read in some time. 2. I still carry the thing, despite it having most of the finish eroded away, and being scuffed and scratched to hell and back. Online. Great write up by MAC. I own a P30. White box Winchester in 115 grain and 124 grain is what I used each time. After Military Arms Channel showed their reliability / torture testing I’m sure a lot of people got scared off concerning the VP9’s reliability.
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