I am in grade 9, and am currently studying Romeo and Juliet. Of course you’re welcome to comment here! No time to check the blog regularly? Shakespeare the Man from Stratford (to the tune of Rudolph …. NO because that would make him a pedophile. This doesn't mean, of course, that she Must be played by a 14 year old.In the 1936 George Cukor film, Norma Shearer was in her 30s I believe, and Leslie Howard (Romeo) was in his 40s!–that I know to be a fact. Romeo is depressed with the fact that Rosaline dumped him. P.S I'm 14 and doing Romeo and Juliet in school, also my first language is Welsh . i can see JM's point. In terms of Romeo being ageless, you make a great deal of sense. Of course, looking at the text *first* eliminates the need for lots of extraneous and ridiculous editorializing about pedophilia. Sir Edward Coke (England, 17th century) made it clear that "the marriage of girls under 12 was normal, and the age at which a girl who was a wife was eligible for a dower from her husband's estate was 9 even though her husband be only four years old." I hope you had a great experience with the role. I think that Romeo's age is anonymous because shakespeare wanted men in the audience to relate to him. Romeo Crennel, Wade Phillips Could Be Old Dogs Teaching Young Coaches New Tricks by Clint Lamb January 19, 2021, 7:49 pm 1 Comment The NFL has … Jones' nickname at this time was "Romeo". post German Romantic) make him younger than he originally was. I can just imagine R&J being closed down because it promotes pedophilia or something. Btw, Juliet's not THAT young, you know. Although I'm sure even the families wouldn't have an answer.That's just my take and I'm only 13 so chances are I sound immature. the way things are is simply a reflection of the culture at the time of it being written. Both the Friar and the Nurse are old, yet they make Romeo and Juliet's hasty young marriage possible. "To the pediphilia discussion, don't be silly.". I was reading through the comments, and I saw one I needed to reply to. Given, that was not the norm, but it did happen. Relationships in the 21st Century contrast Shakespearean era, as seen in Romeo and Juliet. And we cannot rely on Brooke's Romeus and Juliet because of the massive changes that Shakespeare made to the text. By making Romeo ageless, it made most men to relate to him. What is the difference between casting a play now to casting a play from a small acting company in Shakespeare’s day? But lately fans started wondering more and more about him. In fact her closest friend was her nurse and that shows how distant she was from her family. Actually, girls often memorize large portions of the play in junior high – because it’s ‘young love’ lol & because of the films. If R&J took place in modern times I think the only realistic way of working through it and having it make sense would be to have Juliet in grade 9 and have Romeo in grade 12. Lmao people are talking about fictional people they never existed and if we look at the past The French Napoleonic code provided the legal context in 1791 when it established an age of consent of 11 years. Many people want just appropriate this storie and place it nowadays, but I'm sorry there's a huge difference in wisdom of people from the past and us. Romeo, being a handsome young man from a rich family, would have been a tremendously qualified bachelor in Verona. Remember, it isn't his appearance his actions are showing us, but his personality. I would like to think his behavior would define his age, but alas, there are too many examples of such behavior in much older individuals…Billy the Kid, the OK corral, and, I believe the Hatfields and McCoys have a R&J story as well. Paris seems to be more concerned with marrying and being happy with Juliet while Romeo (in the balcony scene) is more interested in sex above anything else. That's no qualifier for being able to Think. But honestly I'm cool with it (the age difference, not the pedophilia!)". Juliet was 15 (did you READ what Dr J said at all??) Simply another viewpoint to picture things from, I suppose. Its the story of a 13year old and a 17(ish) year old that led 2 the deaths of 6 people – the end. Required fields are marked *. Tybalt refers to Romeo as "Thou wretched boy". "Un-Honest desires"??? I would say that Romeo is in his late teens as it is very easy to picture him, as a sorry for himself teenager, I would also suggest that you read the play picturing him as a relatively emo-ish character. Romeo and Juliet Romeo and Juliet is a love story written by William Shakespeare in 1594-1596, which was the late 16th century. We first meet her helping Juliet get ready for the Capulet ball. The ages of parents range from a few years to atleast 10! I mean it's so much better. I say this mainly because I don't think it likely that a girl my age would fall in love, real love, especially with someone so much older than her. Well, The nurse and lady Capulet clearly state that Juliet it thirteen years of age in Act 1 Scene 3. Juliet was 15 (did you READ what Dr J said at all??) I belive that shakie reduced juliet (or Gullieta)’s age because his plays were often based on italian culture and often included italian characters and at the the time it was common in italy for women/girls of a very young age to carry children and were seen more sexually mature than they were in england at the time and so ‘shakie’ maybe have been trying to make his plays more acurate, I apolagise if I seem stupid but please remember i am only a 14 year old who has just finished his yr9 S.A.T’s. I would, as a side note, like to point out that a pedophile is by definition someone 16 or older, whose primary sexual attraction is to children 12/13 or younger. Your name is Mimi and in a book called Saving Juliet, the main character Mimi, plays Juliet all her life. not a sexual attractions. We must remember, Juliet falls madly in love with Romeo on sight…how old can he be? Capulet feels at the beginning of the play that Juliet is far too young to get married, even though girls younger than her are. It was considered that, as soon as you were physically able to have kids, it was right to marry and have kids.Nowadays there's a bunch of useless, arbitrary rules with regard to the matter. They just don't have the chops yet. But I think they mystery of Romeos age makes him an even more intriguing character. Has nothing to do with pedophilia since Juliet is 13. The law is so named after the fictional young lovers in the classic William Shakespeare play "Romeo and Juliet." But I wouldn't have cast any in the professional production I directed. As to Juliet's having been around 18 in Brooke's work, it has been speculated that Shakespeare changed her age so that it would (nearly)fit the number of lines in a sonnet. But I think yours is a gut reaction without the qualifiers. So in order to get the men's attention he made it so that most men could relate to Romeo. To me Romeo is about 16, this way its not a weird thing that they marry. By my count,I was your Mother much upon these yearsThat you are now a Maide. I also have a friend who is 14, and she acts like a mature adult. Have those people not read R&J? Even today, there are societies that give up a young lady, such as the age of Juliet, in marriage to a man much older than she. So I desided to let everybody know what happened with Half Pin and Immature. But honestly I’m cool with it (the age difference, not the pedophilia!) a 21 year old would have been right – but suggestions of molestation to modern audiences wipe out the possibilities. It wouldn’t stage well these days to point out that age difference, of course. Did it occur to anyone that Juliet might be older than Romeo? However, men were rarely the same age as the women they sought for their brides. Like most of the other people posting comments here, I'm in grade 9, and we are reading R&J. Wise people don't think like this , they took all the aspect as the period all the evidences because we cannot just refer to our period and give an answer. I would also like to point out that I know next to nothing of R&J, Shakespeare, or presenting an argument I'm just a kid who wanted to put in her two cents. It is a beautiful story and there is no need for it to be criticised because a thirteen year old girl is very mature for her age, and the guy who wrote wasn't very clear about the boys age. Am I correct? research has shown that children at that age are only just starting to think abstractly, they are not even capable of fully comprehending what is being asked of them, pedophiles take advantage of their innocence and any one who believes that that sort of behaviour is ok is just as bad as them and should be imprisoned with the rest. If anyone is interested in a few more facts and speculations visit my blog at: http://rogertudor.wordpress.com/. When you are really in love, things like age fade into the background- because love knows no limits and your heart determines they're the one. So, her age is not an issue. I suppose there will always be someone to tell us how old he SHOULD have been, regardless of how old he COULD have been. You can't put a boundary on love. Jones has also stated that he was hit in the eye with a book. Shamefully as is usual in this day in age, where so many people think of themselves as highly sophisticated intellects, such people seem to see situations through the prism of what THEY consider appropriate in today's age, within their own worlds, without giving consideration what was thought to be appropriate during a previous age, and different world, such as during the time of Romeo, and Juliet. It's something to be proud of no matter where you did it, or however old you might be. By my count, I was your mother much upon these years that you are now a maid". I, personally, see Romeo around eighteen, or nineteen. . And they're definitely young, yes. They are children who are *acting* like grown ups. He must be about her age. Over what? Just stumbled across your blog while doing some research and thought I'd put in my two cents (:-Dana, 15y/o. Or can we so easily dismiss that fact as though it doesn't exist either? I agree with you Duane. She was 16 when they walked down the aisle together–A Catholic wedding, mind you! It seems likely that the relationship between Romeo and Juliet was more lust and youthful infatuation than real love; more the two reaching out to one another and forming a desperate, rebellious bond, as a means of gaining an outlet for the frustration created be the tension and isolation between their two families. Love rarely entered into the equation even for the males- it was a matter of benefit and desire (desire being lust as opposed to love). I personally don't think that paedophilia had anything to do with Romeo and Juliet as in the time it was written there was no legal age of consent, and most girls had to get married and bare children so young because their life expectancy was so much shorter, a 13 year old girl was probably classed as middle aged!! Romeo is in his teens too. Romeo Beckham is getting plenty of attention for his first magazine cover and there is one thing in particular fans are raving about. Fact: No one in history gave a damn about our "opinion". Back in the day, it was common for people in their early- to mid-teens to marry and have children. Romeo was far less mature even though people are sure he was older.I believe that love is ageless and that as long as you are mature enough to comprehend it you can fall in love.I think that Romeo was never given an age because, when you think about it, anyone could be Romeo.He is ageless. I don't think anything about this play is supposed to be of a pedophiliac nature. As for Juliet's age, she's 13 almost 14. Jones is a founding member of R&B group Immature/IMx, which included members Marques "Batman" Houston and Kelton "LDB" Kessee and was managed by Chris Stokes. Instead we are repeatedly told that she is not yet fourteen. My students age of 11 and 12 in love like R n J, talk about they would die if their parents ever tried to seperate them. – Missouri: A person under age 15 cannot marry without approval of a judge in the county where the marriage license is sought. While Lady Capulet proves unable to quiet the Nurse, Juliet succeeds with one word (also in Act 1, scene 3). It's thought that Richard Burbage was the first to play the role. love does not have an age guys. Most men were married to their first wife- who was not, necessarily, their only wife- somewhere in their early to mid twenties; young enough to sire children, but young enough also to perhaps bring some measure of new wealth to the family coffers and, perhaps, a measure of comfort to their bride in knowing that her groom was not a man thirty years her senior (which did happen on numerous occasions throughout history). However, I have to disagree with the statement that Romeo would just be another adult manipulating Juliet's life. Surely it was the case that men simply chose younger wives (Capulet is much older than his wife, is he not? Thanks Doc! Romeo doesn't automatically think that way about Juliet. This would imply Rosaline to be somewhere within this sixteen to eighteen year age bracket, if not a few years past, because she is able to make her own choice in preserving her virtue rather than being married off by her father with or without her consent. P.S I'm 14, and I'm doing Romeo and Juliet in school. It feels way better when they're younger. That's mostly because of the labor laws at the beginning of the twentieth century. Shakespeare cuts three years off Juliet’s age to make her the tender age of 13: as Old Capulet says to Paris, ‘she hath not seen the change of fourteen years’. to Dana about it not being about physical attraction: i realize whole silioquy to juliet at her balcony is a big display of love and all, but it's also romeo musing on juliet's chastity. If Rosaline has the power to decide her marriage fate for herself, she either has an extremely overindulgent father or has already passed the prime age of marriage unwed for some reason or another. Well it obviously says juliet's age "come lamas eve night shall she be 14." The fact that they turn away from the driving ides of their families attracts the part of us that recognizes love as being superior to hate. Her love had no boundaries and it wouldn't matter to her if he was 30 because she loved him so much that she died for him. Then you have a bad book, Rachel, if it makes statements like that :). I've been reading R&J and it obvious that Juliett is a matured 13 years old. Maybe thats how it was meant to be? And once again, congratulations on your accomplishment. Assuming that Rosaline is about 17-18 years old (the upper extreme of marriageable age), Romeo must presumably be at least the same. In any case, just for information about modern marriage laws (in the US! "I can just imagine R&J being closed down because it promotes pedophilia or something. Arranged marriages were made without regard to difference in age; they were matches of power and wealth, designed to benefit the bride's family by marrying her to the most important groom possible while still satisfying the groom with the bride herself. I am 12 years old and I began thinking about many "abtract" things since age 7! The group also branched out into film (such as House Party 4: Down to the Last Minute) and television (such as A Different World) before disbanding in 2002. Well, thinke of marriage now: younger than you,Here in Verona, Ladies of esteeme,Are made already Mothers. I am a vehement supporter of age-appropriate actors to play R&J…It's sickening to see 20 year olds playing Juliet. In 2004, Jones began pursuing a solo career. Juliet can be young and be the smart one. and yerr sorry for my english grammar.. my only excuse is im from Norway.. and not a smart kid.. People have to remember that this was written during a time when a twelve year old girl could be married to a man twenty years her senior. Face Masks, Stickers, Tote Bags, and other Accessories, Mercutio, Tybalt and Paris are also all about 13, you have to cast R&J of roughly equivalent ages, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_hair. So she's almost 14, and mom wants to upbraid her slightly for being a little long in the tooth when it comes to finding a man!?! I believe they're quite near that ages. Paris). Hope you don’t mind my commenting here. I had a detached retina (and) my lens came out, I had to have three eye surgeries. In this work, Juliet is a young girl of 16, while Romeo is somewhat older. My memory of reading Romeo and Juliet at 14 was of being done with it as quickly as possible :). This might sound stupid, but I just finished watching "Letters to Juliet" a second ago and Claire was only 15 when she fell in love with Lorenzo, so I wondered if it is possible to fall in such a deep love at a young age, just like Romeo and Juliet did. Romeo, Young Rome: Born: Los Angeles, California: Genres: R&B, hip hop: Occupation(s) Musician, producer, songwriter, actor, film director: Years active: 1990–2002 (Immature/IMx) 2004–present (solo) 1993–present (actor) Labels: TUG Entertainment, Universal Records: Associated acts: IMx, Omarion, Marques Houston, Lil Fizz No more than a year younger or about a year or 2 older than Juliet in Shakespeare's version. In fact, he wrote Lear, Hamlet, Othello, and Richard III, among others, FOR Burbage. So, to reiterate my point, whenever i read the play, i see Romeo somewhere around eighteen. I think the perception of their love being "creepy" now, it the perverted mind-set of the times we live. The more I read the play, the more I appreciate that Juliet is the most mature person in it. I was searching for Romeo and Juliet's age because I recently finished reading it. That was how I was always told, and it just seems the most likely to me. Why did Shakespeare reduce her age? I think not…. Im not convinced that R+J was written by Shakespeare and not Christopher Marlowe. Pedofilia is not restricted to children of that age. "…Ladies of esteem,/Are already made Mothers…" "I was already YOUR mother before this age you are now"–DUH. Originally (ie Shakespeare’s company) Romeo would have had a beard – and would have been played by a ‘mature’ actor – boys without beard were ‘sexless’. she's my soulmate i cant live without her. It is a story of two generations failing to understand each other. One more fact: I've never met a 13-14 year old male OR female respectively capable of playing either role. God(bible) or man? However, Baz Luhrmann immediately worried that she was far too young for the role. I have an uncle who is in his late 30s, and he still acts like a teenager. and even if she was 13, does that mean its ok for a man in his 40's to have sex with her? He thinks she's beautiful. After the ball, Juliet tells the Nurse about her feelings for Romeo and she delivers messages between the two lovers throughout the play. The prime age of marriage for men often began somewhere between sixteen to twenty years of age and never quite ended after that- prime age for a man after that was simply factored into the state of being alive and able to sire children. Of course, this is all a matter of opinion, but based off what I've stated above- that information being just about the extent of my knowledge on the subject of arranged marriages and marriage of girls at young ages- I rather pictured Romeo to be somewhere between 20 to perhaps 24 years of age. Shakespeare changed lots of things, what's to say he didn't change Romeo's age? Lack of experience and classical technique being the reason. It's all about LOVE! the concern people are having is that by today's standards we are allowing the government to tell us what is and isn't morally right…It was not uncommon for a girl 13 to marry a 20 year old in that era…but today we are told this is sick behavior…castrate the guy…the thing is both people still have the same attractions but we are told it is perverted now….so I guess God was perverted when he thought it okay to have MARY pregnant at 12….NO NO NO …..Mankinds views has told us to think it is wrong but nature has it that any other animal has sex when they are of physical age to do so…..bible says if we pass the flowering age(puberty) to marry rather than burn….so better to marry at 12-13 then to sin….but society calls this sick who is right? Look at most of you're parents.. ), and actually we can assume that Romeo and the others are what, maybe late teens, early 20’s? NO because that would make him a pedophile. Tybalt doesn't have Lord Capulet standing behind him, acknowleding the duel. The whole he's not old enough to have a beard thing places him between 12-15. Also, it is not really our place to speculate, as (a) that is probably the opposite of what Shakespeare wanted, (b) we are not in Shakespearean times, and will always instinctively try to moderate the age so as to seem 'normal', by our standards anyway, though it might be very far off what people in his time would have imagined. I don't know what to think since people these days have changed so much and you don't see that kinda love anymore.If anyone could answer I would appreciate it, thanks . (Some of the arguments I’ve heard putting him toward 18 always seemed inexplicably “off.”) This way, he’s just young enough to be so wanton and so reckless with his sentiments (c.f., the Rosalind fiasco), but not quite old enough to have had enough experiences to jade him accordingly. I think I understand it –let me explain. Ever since Half Pin left Immature people begen to ask questions. Hope this makes sense. Maybe that's one reason (but not the only one) why Shakespeare made Romeo "ageless". Anyway, just thought i would throw that out there for your consideration, it doesnt change the play one little bit whoever it is attributed to, it is still a literary classic, and it is a clasic for a reason. Now I realize that the women of the past had to grow up much faster than the women of the present, who are generally sheltered and live at home until they become 18. Even though they do everything to be with each other. Romeo is celebrating a landmark birthday (Picture: Instagram) In news that it is bound to make you reach for the Zimmerframe, Romeo Beckham has turned 18 years old. If she hear me talking, I know she can hear the honesty in my voice and my sincerity. Capulet begins the play by denying Paris’s request to marry Juliet, on the grounds that she is too young. (Although the high school Juliet was pretty darned terrific in the role, I don't seriously think she was ready for RSC next day, if you know what I mean.) The Nurse is a servant in the Capulet household and has looked after Juliet since she was a baby. But as I was saying, for Juliet, love was blind. I like them very much that way. But that’s hardly true, is it? I began puberty when I was in 5/6th grade, and didn’t even begin needing shaving for quite some time. if you look at one of the resources 'shakie' based his version on "Romeus and Juliet" by Brooke's then it becomes apparent that it was about lust, sin, etc everything that shouldn't be done. There’s a simple question. A pedophile is a man or woman who has a sexual obsession with children who are deemed to be minors in the eyes of the law. 1. Who are the objects of: (a) ‘old desire’ and (b) ‘young affection’ 2. I agree with the above statement that Romeo would probably be 21. "Much has been written about the origins of the character, as well Romeo's influence on other young male lovers throughout Western literature, but rather than a role model to be emulated, Shakespeare's Romeo is an enduring example of young … To the pediphilia discussion, don't be silly. Regardless of how old anyone would prefer Juliet to be, "Even or odde, of all the daies in the year come Lammas Eve at night she shall be fourteene.". Another reason I believe this to be the case is because his age didn't matter to Juliet. (I believe that's Act I, Scene III.) So that certainly backs up the idea that you have to cast R&J of roughly equivalent ages to avoid squicking out your audience. Our own sense of historical self-importance seems to precede us; particularly re: eras about which we can have absolutely no sense of experience. In my experience this has been the rule rather than the exception. why yes sir.. i read this because i have to in class. But it would be TERRIBLE if they had been like 18 years old, it just seems so, I don't know why. Yes, he would physically be an adult at 21, I have no doubts about that, but MENTALLY? Sign up for our weekly newsletter and we'll deliver it right to your inbox! He is a member of R&B singing group Immature/IMx and released his solo debut album Food for Thought in 2004. Natalie Portman, who was only 14 years old at the time, was originally cast as Juliet. however shakespeare has taken Brooke's story and transformed it into legendary lines of inspiration that send the reader into the heady daze of "love". I think Romeo's age is abstract and left as a mystery because it sparks the imagination of the reader, and captures them, even captivating them to want to analyse deeper, even though the detail wasn't the most important. And often I think that we then make the leap and assume that Romeo is 13 as well. Like now, most women prefer to watch a romantic film than most men. Does this mean that the US has laws that promote pedophilia? I also think Shakespeare didn't mention the age because it wasn't as much of an issue as for the fact that the Capulets and the Montagues hate each other and all of a sudden their children fall in love. In the play, you may recall that Juliet was 13 years old while Romeo was several years older, though their actual age gap was not specified. We either cut the line or get some actor who's so good nobody gives a flying Capulet about how old she "really is".
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